codegearbuntu in distro heaven
"Distro heaven" is the main theme of the March 2008 Linux Format issue. Ubuntu is currently probably the most popular Linux distribution and also basis of myriads of derivatives, like Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Linux Mint, Ubuntu Studio, Mythbuntu, Fluxbuntu and thousands of others.
This made me thinking if it would make sense to create "CodeGearBuntu"? What should go into Linux CodeGear distro? Maybe there should be more "codegearbuntus" like "CodeGearBuntu3rdRailDesktop" with Rails 2.0, "CodeGearBuntuJBuilderTeamInsight" with subversion, xplanner, bugzilla and continuum, and "CodeGearBuntuHardcoreDeveloper" with a trendy CodeGear wallpaper preinstalled?
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Posted by Pawel Glowacki on March 7th, 2008 under Uncategorized |21 Responses to “codegearbuntu in distro heaven”
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March 7th, 2008 at 3:46 pm
What do you think about KylixBuntu. I’m sorry that Borland has stopped further development of Kylix. It was a nice project, but because of the speedy development of Linux, Borland couldn’t cope with it.
March 7th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Pawel, if you really want to create a CodeGear Linux distro, then make sure (a version of) Kylix is inside it as well ;-))
Even only the Kylix command-line compiler would be great, thanks…
March 7th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Kylix 4 maybe?
March 7th, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Kylix don’t work for Borland because Linux is an open source world, they don’t understand the open source bussines, I think.
Maybe, Codegear can look the open source world on different way, adding tools for other programming languajes, like Python
offering a free IDE.
March 7th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
I would be very interested in a CodeGear Linux Distro if it contained a pre-configured version of Kylix. XPlatform development is becoming more and more an issue. I would like to target multiple platforms with a single codebase. There is very little information and other support for this from CodeGear. One of the reasons developers are drawn to the M$ camp is that .NET is XPlatform capable. If native code is to compete with .NET it must offer solutions on the same key platforms (mobile & desktop) that .NET does. I think CodeGear could capture the market if they could show the world the only tools that could provide native and .NET solutions form the same code.
March 7th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Kylix
March 7th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
Please give us DelphiUbuntu!!!
Red Hat has learnt how to gain money from this, I am assured, CodeGear can too!
March 8th, 2008 at 2:48 am
kylix
March 8th, 2008 at 3:13 am
Kylibuntux that is!
March 8th, 2008 at 3:17 am
In all the forums and newsgroups I visit on a regular basis which revolve around Delphi, I read more and more about peoples interest and desire to code once and deploy on multiple platforms. More specifically on a Linux platform. I use Ubuntu and because I want to code for multiple platforms I have installed Lazarus. Well, I am lazy and a win32 codebase needs a lot of work in Lazarus to get things working. I haven’t done much with Lazarus because of this.
In any event, it is my opinion that CodeGear needs to re-evaluate such a project.
I for one am for a Delphi for Ubuntu/Linux. I would really like to code on Windows and deploy on Ubuntu or vice versa if I had my wishes granted. But I’d also like to port my code to the Mac as well.
March 8th, 2008 at 5:13 am
One more vote for KylixBuntu. However, what about C++BuilderXBuntu?
To maxi: if you subscribe to Eclipse news, you must know that CodeGear has just contributes its Ruby debugger to Eclipse. CodeGear is learning from Borland’s mistakes.
March 8th, 2008 at 5:21 am
In my opinion, Codegear must have an X-Plataform strategy. (It seems that there is a significant and increasing interest in development for Linux. Moreover, Microsoft will not enter - let alone monopolize - this market, for obvious reasons). However, as it does not seem feasable to replicate the visual components (VCL), and keep the implementations synchronized, I think that Codegear should make a development tool without Widgets dependecies, like MSEIDE+MSEGUI (a brilliant tool, that would be revolutionary if it were a product promoted by Codegear - if you have neve heard of it, try it out and see what I am talking about). The community would make all kind of components and , aside from the drawing engine it would be completely OS independent, and so it would be a breeze to keep it compatible with all the OSs (Windows, Linux, OSX) and distros. Just my 2 cents.
March 10th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
You asked for it:
Kylix of course. Nobody needs yet another Linux distribution unless it can offer something unique. Kylix could be that "something unique".
Of course I realize that this is not going to happen, but I can dream, can’t I?
March 11th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Pawel,
There should be a CodeGear Linux resource site where you can download all the tools and cool stuff like wallpaper for Linux. Personally, I am happy with my Mandriva 2008 installations. I would REALLY like to run ALL my CodeGear tools on Linux, especially the 2007 RAD Studio. Sure, I would also like to target Linux, but if the current RAD IDE could run under WINE, that would be OK, as long as I can recompile my Delphi using the FreePascal compiler and my C++ using the GCC collection. The JBuilder team is leading the way with innovation on-top of Open Source. Why can’t the RAD team move in the same direction? At least try it for the Turbos. It would make the most sense there, since your giving them away anyway.
March 13th, 2008 at 11:20 am
CodeGear - Please, please bring Kylix back or a Lazarus capable delphi…we really, really need it and want it in the rest of the world, if the USA doesn’t.
March 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pm
I have several projects in Kylix that chain me to a 5(?) year old constellation of distros. Linux has moved so far in the interm. I could use a new, maintained Kylix!
March 22nd, 2008 at 8:32 am
Linux really needs development tools that are easy to use. (Well, I need linux development tools that are easy to use, anyway). So many apps in linux just don’t work properly, probably because gui development is so hard without proper gui tools. Lets get Delphi and C++ Builder available for Linux. We don’t need a new version of Delphi for Windows every year.
March 24th, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Its plain that Kylix was a great disappointment to many. I worked around the problem by implementing Wine on Linux, finding that I could run my Delphi Win32 appa with little difficulty. Mt understanding of Kylix was that it too ran in the Wine environment.
The main shortcoming with Wine is the lack of ODBC drivers or other database connectivity. Perhaps Borland could thisnkmore about portability.
Also, what about addressing postability to handheld devices (esp. Windows Mobile?). Where is Borland in this market after almost a decade when they started to work with Symbian??
March 25th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
Dear Sir.How can ı download c compiler on linux? Can you help me for this problem?
March 25th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
Dear Sir.How can ı download c compiler on linux? Can you help me for this problem? I want to work c on linux.But ı can’t find c compiler to work on linux.
March 31st, 2008 at 5:19 pm
Kylix! With Intraweb !