Comments on: Tiburon Screenshot

By: khelifa

khelifa — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:43:28 +0000

it wil be great adition if it suport righttoleft mode

By: VSE user

VSE user — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 15:28:09 +0000

And what about Turbo Explorer 2009?
And without "One personality limitation" and "no 3rd party components".

Microsoft’s VS Express has much more possibilities and no limitations for developers in functionality!

Reports can be used free:
http://www.gotreportviewer.com/

For 75% single developers VSE is enough. They can free use 3rd party libraries:

1) Creating reports (MS Reporting Services + http://www.fyireporting.com/products.html)
2) Creating OpenXML files (Open XML Format SDK)
3) Working with OpenOffice with Intellisense.
4) Creating charts:
http://zedgraph.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

By: Mohammed Nasman

Mohammed Nasman — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:56:46 +0000

Nick,

Does the Ribbon support BidiMore = RightToLeft?

By: Brion L. Webster

Brion L. Webster — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:43:26 +0000

Jonnes/Joao! Yes, I’m still around. Not quite sure why sometimes, but just can’t seem to let myself go!

By: m. Th.

m. Th. — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:12:17 +0000

Hi Nick,

Nice to see it.

1. In MSWord/Excel 2007 by double-clicking on a tab (eg. ‘Home’) the ribbon collapses (it enters, in fact, in auto-hide mode). After this, by (single) clicking on a tab it shows the corresponding page and after choosing a button/action the ribbon auto-hides itself again. By double-clicking again on a tab one can restore the ribbon’s initial state. Do you provide such a mode and/or corresponding events to achieve it?

2. About ’skining’: One can skin _only_ the ribbon or the entire form?

3. Do you provide an UI for end user customisation?

4. If the response for 3. is ‘yes’, it supports also shortcut keys customisation? (for ex. a THotKey component to assign certain key combination to the current action or something similar)

TIA,

m. Th.

By: Joao Henrique Levada

Joao Henrique Levada — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 17:48:02 +0000

Brion, is that you?!

From the old "Kylix-Borland Chat" times?

I’m Jonnes, remember me?

If you do so, send me a mail on joaolevada at gmail dot com

By: Nick Hodges

Nick Hodges — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:42:29 +0000

BTW –

The reason that the ListView isn’t themed is because I screwed up — I’m going to redo the screenshot.

Nick

By: Nick Hodges

Nick Hodges — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:40:34 +0000

Ottar –

Yes, you can skin it. I believe that we are shipping with three different skins.

Nick

By: Nick Hodges

Nick Hodges — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:39:35 +0000

Zenon –

The helmet icon is based on a very real Trojan Helmet found, if I am not mistaken, in the Hellenic National Museum in Greece.

Nick

By: Nick Hodges

Nick Hodges — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:05:18 +0000

Roland –

What message bug in the build tab?

Nick

By: Brion L. Webster

Brion L. Webster — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:34:22 +0000

Nick, you posted on the NNTP newsgroup borland.public.delphi.non-technical that there will not be a CodeGear RAD Studio product in the Tiburon timeframe. Is this screenshot correct, then? The IDE title says CodeGear RAD Studio, which could reasonably lead previous RAD Studio Software Assurance holders to expect a .NET personality.

-Brion

By: Frank

Frank — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:25:18 +0000

Zenon,

It’s not a medieval knight’s helmet. It’s a Greco-Roman era helmet. Seeing that Delphi was the ancient Greek location of an oracle, the icon makes sense. Still I would like to see a new icon this round. At one time, I had both D2006 and D2007 in my Quickstart bar. I had to hover just to find out which of the quick start was which. I eventually changed the icon of D2006 in the menu, but there needs to be a new icon for the new studio.

By: keith

keith — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:05:23 +0000

I suggest this icon to replace the helmet: http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/images/jaws.jpg

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:16:26 +0000

Liking the new components a lot and looking forward to unicode as we use a lot of mathematical (greek) symbols.

Hope you guys are currently debugging your little asses off!

By: Manolis Perrakis

Manolis Perrakis — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:59:36 +0000

In order Codegear to be able to attract new customers it must have allies.
It must also provide some innovation something new in technology areas in order
to persuade third party companies to invest in these technologies.
In my opinion Codegear doesnot create allies.
I’m a VCL subscriber in DevExpress for many years and I’m watching the distance separating net
and Vcl tools to become bigger and bigger in favor of Microsoft Tools.
Can anyone really compare the quality and the support of DevExpress tools with anything?
They support previous versions products and give you patches and corrections for them nearly any month. These are really professionals. Visit their site and see the dozen of videos they create promoting Microsoft Tools. Any video for VCL? Not a chance..
I also see Microsoft’s third party parteners to produce their own technologies supporting net platforms. DevExpress for example introduces XPO and XAF, Remobjects has Oxygene and telerik creates its own WPF technology for Winforms ..
I also think that with the buyout from Embarcadero Codegear will also compete and shrink RemObjects DA.
Therefore in my opinion with these moves the VCL third party market will continue to shrink
Maybe some of you may think that it won’t affect Codegear, but I would have to disagree.

By: Jeroen Pluimers

Jeroen Pluimers — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:58:20 +0000

Good to see the "Exit" icon is still old skool

By: Anthony Frazier

Anthony Frazier — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:59:08 +0000

I don’t care what kind of beta state it’s in… just send me a copy.

By: asp

asp — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:09:41 +0000

I disagree with Manolis. I like the MS products because they include all neccessary tools whithin the package. See SQL Server, VS. Why I need to spend extra money to by a lot of third party components to achieve just a modern look. I like to get all in the box. It is not about extra features that could be done by third parties. But the basic thinks like modern look and feel must be supplied by CodeGear. And it is very good that CodeGear updates VCL, first time for the years. What I personally wish, it is to update docking. Existing applications using built-in docking mechanism looks ugly on XP with themes enabled and nearly unusable on Vista. Why not to publish docking panels used by IDE?

By: Bvo

Bvo — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:44:37 +0000

Manolis Perrakis-

Who needs these baggy and heavy components from DevExpress or TMS?
I don’t like DE’ and don’t need TMS’ so much.
It’s great to see TRibbon comes - after upgrading to D2009 it will be easy (I hope) update an interface of existing applications to introduce a new level of accessibility without additional costs.
As for me TRibbon is the only thing I like in D2009.

And third-party comp. developers HAVE to go far ahead of CG’ comps. Just look at VS - great IDE with many ready2use comps, not like Delphi with it’s TButtonEdit, TLinkLabel and others things, which should be presented 10 years ago. And VS 3rd-party market is huge.

Though it’s a pity that TurboPower is not here today…
But it’s other things why them gone - Delphi sucks for many years.

Will it rise again? Wee’ll see…

By: Ottar Holstad

Ottar Holstad — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:42:12 +0000

Do we get skinning to go with the ribbon? I think that would be more important than the ribbon itself. As it is, every component-vendor invents its own skinning mechanisms, making it hard to combine GUI-components from different vendors (incl. the standard windows controls). Anyway, I think it’s in there

By: Zenon

Zenon — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:16:26 +0000

Yes, **please** get rid of the helmet icon!!!! Or at least, someone please explain to me how on earth a medieval knight’s helmet makes any sense in connection with a 21st-century Rapid Application Development environment, just so that I can sleep peacefully..

By: Francis

Francis — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:00:12 +0000

I disagree with Manolis,
Delphi needs to be owner of a powerfull GUI. This is very important to attract new users.

Delphi 2009 looks great!!

By: Chee Meng

Chee Meng — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:46:36 +0000

I concur with Manolis.

It will be sad to see more component creators moving away to other platforms or closing shop altogether (TurboPower, anyone?).

Unless the component-makers are not doing their job well, it might have been a better idea to get a bulk license from them to include their component as part of new comp. set. Heck, that might even stir the emergence of new component-makers!

Nevertheless, congrats on the new (upcoming) launch!

By: Manolis Perrakis

Manolis Perrakis — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:21:01 +0000

I don’t think Ribbon creating a Ribbon is a good idea.
1. You spend resources on something that already exists by 2 vendors
(devexpress and tms) for nearly 2 years
2. You are removing financial resources from the third party developers even though
there are so few left in the VCL market. This is another reason for
the shrinking of this market.
3. It is obvious that you have nothing pioneer and new to show and you only copy
what already has been done. (Ribbon controls, Net and so on).

Congratulations

By: Thierry

Thierry — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:55:43 +0000

Great Ribbon is here

Like Luigi i’m asking me if the new ribbon’s components have ‘interaction’ with all other vcl components plugged in forms…
for example, the statusbar component must be specific when ribbon menu are used in forms.. PopupMenu, PopupActionMenu too etc…
All of this for ergonomic and graphics design homogeneity …

I think choice between design form plugged in ide windows (need scrolling…) or like design form like a real free windows (like in delphi 7) should be very nice…

Thanks Nick for all your D2009 posts, informations are good…

nb: sorry for me poor english…

By: Luigi D. Sandon

Luigi D. Sandon — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 07:31:11 +0000

Why the listview (or whatever it is) on the left is not themed/skinned?

By: Irakliation

Irakliation — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:58:04 +0000

Stevie -

Visually upgraded IDE would be nice with brand new icon. Also Action Menus might need renewal What about data binding model and data controls? Are there any improvements?

By: t

Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:55:17 +0000

Well actually it means "歡迎來到 Delphi 2009 帶來的 Unicode 世界".

By: Roland

Roland — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 04:37:38 +0000

The new version looks really good!
Have you fixed the message bug in the build tab yet ?
For reference see http://qc.codegear.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=44678

/Roland

By: YFY

YFY — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:07:35 +0000

The sentence which is in Chinese that has been translated from Englishe is WRONG! The correct one is:

Chinese: 欢迎来到 Delphi2009 的 Unicode 世界！
Englishe: Welcome to the world of Unicode with Delphi 2009.