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	<title>Comments on: CodeGear Quality Review 2007</title>
	<link>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894</link>
	<description>CodeGear QA Manager for RAD Studio products</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 20:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Qian Xu</title>
		<link>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-821</link>
		<author>Qian Xu</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 04:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-821</guid>
		<description>Hi Christ,

To eliminate old issues is obviously the best answer to all honest Delphi fans.

Please take a look at this issue. I wondered, why it can be remained in database for so many years. 
http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=6417

Fix such kind of issues, thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Christ,</p>
<p>To eliminate old issues is obviously the best answer to all honest Delphi fans.</p>
<p>Please take a look at this issue. I wondered, why it can be remained in database for so many years.<br />
<a href="http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=6417" rel="nofollow">http://qc.borland.com/wc/qcmain.aspx?d=6417</a></p>
<p>Fix such kind of issues, thanks</p>
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		<title>By: jesu</title>
		<link>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-797</link>
		<author>jesu</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 08:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-797</guid>
		<description>It seems you are doing a good job with new bugs but you are forgetting old ones.

For me it would be much more useful if you solved issues like the very buggy ordering part in Midas.

When I do "order by 1" I want data ordered by the first field, not by the 2nd or in reverse order (I'm talking mainly about D7 here -with Midas.dll from D2006-) but I haven't seen in Codegear articles any mention that it works right in D2007. That could be a reason to upgrade.

And no, I can't reproduce it because it seems to work different each time I write a new query, but you could take a look to QC 55581 because it could be related.

By the way, the option to do
Indexfieldnames := 'FIELD1 ASC; FIELD2 DESC'
is long overdue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems you are doing a good job with new bugs but you are forgetting old ones.</p>
<p>For me it would be much more useful if you solved issues like the very buggy ordering part in Midas.</p>
<p>When I do "order by 1" I want data ordered by the first field, not by the 2nd or in reverse order (I&#8217;m talking mainly about D7 here -with Midas.dll from D2006-) but I haven&#8217;t seen in Codegear articles any mention that it works right in D2007. That could be a reason to upgrade.</p>
<p>And no, I can&#8217;t reproduce it because it seems to work different each time I write a new query, but you could take a look to QC 55581 because it could be related.</p>
<p>By the way, the option to do<br />
Indexfieldnames := &#8216;FIELD1 ASC; FIELD2 DESC&#8217;<br />
is long overdue.</p>
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		<title>By: m. Th.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-771</link>
		<author>m. Th.</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 17:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-771</guid>
		<description>Hi, Chris!

1. Just one word: :-) !
2. Just two words: Merry Christmas! Perhaps I don't have other occasion and it's also your day name, isn't? :-)
3. Just three words: Tiburon field test. Yes, it will be a whole bunch of work to do 
and here perhaps that I have a small experience because we dealt with Unicode issues 
from several years, now. But perhaps a hidden (for you) problem is (to quote Chris 
Bensen) "you use Delphi in a very different way than we do". :-) You see, in our ('our' here = community) programs the VCL's presentation layer is almost replaced entirely by 3rd party components, as you (probably) know. So, it will be a rather sequential process in order to test our 'real world' projects, because we need to wait those 3rd party vendors. Fortunately (in our discussion) the market it's pretty mature one so there are few major players in most areas having unfortunately (in our discussion) huge libraries making entire ecosystems (DevExpress, FastReport, IBObjects for ex.). So, my proposal is to start ASAP. Also, another reason is to allow us to test Tiburon without these libs, just with simple programs in which we'll embed our algorithms/procedures related to strings in order to fix them in a 'clean room'. 

Just my 2c &#38; Merry Christmas again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Chris!</p>
<p>1. Just one word: <img src='http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> !<br />
2. Just two words: Merry Christmas! Perhaps I don&#8217;t have other occasion and it&#8217;s also your day name, isn&#8217;t? <img src='http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
3. Just three words: Tiburon field test. Yes, it will be a whole bunch of work to do<br />
and here perhaps that I have a small experience because we dealt with Unicode issues<br />
from several years, now. But perhaps a hidden (for you) problem is (to quote Chris<br />
Bensen) "you use Delphi in a very different way than we do". <img src='http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> You see, in our (&#8217;our&#8217; here = community) programs the VCL&#8217;s presentation layer is almost replaced entirely by 3rd party components, as you (probably) know. So, it will be a rather sequential process in order to test our &#8216;real world&#8217; projects, because we need to wait those 3rd party vendors. Fortunately (in our discussion) the market it&#8217;s pretty mature one so there are few major players in most areas having unfortunately (in our discussion) huge libraries making entire ecosystems (DevExpress, FastReport, IBObjects for ex.). So, my proposal is to start ASAP. Also, another reason is to allow us to test Tiburon without these libs, just with simple programs in which we&#8217;ll embed our algorithms/procedures related to strings in order to fix them in a &#8216;clean room&#8217;. </p>
<p>Just my 2c &amp; Merry Christmas again!</p>
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		<title>By: Joeri Sebrechts</title>
		<link>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-764</link>
		<author>Joeri Sebrechts</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 07:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-764</guid>
		<description>Good news to hear unicode is still on the win32 roadmap. We are currently in the process of migrating our 12 year old 2 million line codebase to Delphi.NET primarily for unicode support (project started over a year ago, nearly finished now), and we're wondering now about the value proposition of completing this migration versus waiting for D2008 and porting to that. Do you have any thoughts about the effort that will be involved in migrating to unicode on win32? By the way, we're definitely interested in beta testing D2008, whether it is specific to unicode support or in general. You can contact me at js at mcs.be (but I will check these comments again).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good news to hear unicode is still on the win32 roadmap. We are currently in the process of migrating our 12 year old 2 million line codebase to Delphi.NET primarily for unicode support (project started over a year ago, nearly finished now), and we&#8217;re wondering now about the value proposition of completing this migration versus waiting for D2008 and porting to that. Do you have any thoughts about the effort that will be involved in migrating to unicode on win32? By the way, we&#8217;re definitely interested in beta testing D2008, whether it is specific to unicode support or in general. You can contact me at js at mcs.be (but I will check these comments again).</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-761</link>
		<author>Bill</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 01:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-761</guid>
		<description>All went well when I ran the December Update although as advertised it did 
take 2.5 hours to install on Vista.

The update solved the most annoying problem of the IDE not restoring from 
its minimized state when debugging (when hitting the second break point), 
but it restored another although cosmetic problem that was eliminated in 
previous updates.  The "feature" of 2 icons in the taskbar is BACK!...  It 
looks like a January update may be required to fix this AGAIN too.

Did the restore from minimise when debugging bugfix recreate the second icon on the taskbar?  Jeepers I hope you guys fix this too.

Other that that so far so good with December Update.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All went well when I ran the December Update although as advertised it did<br />
take 2.5 hours to install on Vista.</p>
<p>The update solved the most annoying problem of the IDE not restoring from<br />
its minimized state when debugging (when hitting the second break point),<br />
but it restored another although cosmetic problem that was eliminated in<br />
previous updates.  The "feature" of 2 icons in the taskbar is BACK!&#8230;  It<br />
looks like a January update may be required to fix this AGAIN too.</p>
<p>Did the restore from minimise when debugging bugfix recreate the second icon on the taskbar?  Jeepers I hope you guys fix this too.</p>
<p>Other that that so far so good with December Update.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Hendricks</title>
		<link>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-760</link>
		<author>Joe Hendricks</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-760</guid>
		<description>I am encouraged by the trend! And thanks Chris for your participation in the newsgroups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am encouraged by the trend! And thanks Chris for your participation in the newsgroups.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pattinson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-758</link>
		<author>Chris Pattinson</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-758</guid>
		<description>I did miss mentioning we also did a documentation update, and have another in the works. We've been adding and fixing lost content, and F1 linking. 

Doc quality has been one of the biggest core complaints, and we're still working on it. You should see more improvements in the coming months.

Arturo, sorry we didn't nail anything you were looking for. Highly recommend you and others interested in these fixes go into QC and add your votes. There are still thousands of issues to go after and we'll want to go after the top ones first. 

Usually that means crashes, broken functionality and regressions. However we do want to improve usability and that's what it sounds like you are asking for.

Regards,

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did miss mentioning we also did a documentation update, and have another in the works. We&#8217;ve been adding and fixing lost content, and F1 linking. </p>
<p>Doc quality has been one of the biggest core complaints, and we&#8217;re still working on it. You should see more improvements in the coming months.</p>
<p>Arturo, sorry we didn&#8217;t nail anything you were looking for. Highly recommend you and others interested in these fixes go into QC and add your votes. There are still thousands of issues to go after and we&#8217;ll want to go after the top ones first. </p>
<p>Usually that means crashes, broken functionality and regressions. However we do want to improve usability and that&#8217;s what it sounds like you are asking for.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Arturo Martínez</title>
		<link>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-757</link>
		<author>Arturo Martínez</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-757</guid>
		<description>@Warren:
"If somebody could finally fix the three long-standing QC annoyances Arturo mentions, I’m sure everybody would sigh a breath of relief."

Well, I'm sure I'd sigh a big breath of relief. Everytime I need to build my source tree I need to manually remove the read-only attribute to all the files for the IDE can compile. In Delphi 7 I could build all the source tree even if all files were read-only, as they are if you are working with a VCS like Vault. VS2005 doesn't have this problem either, and I work with a lot of C# projects with the same VCS which IDE integration is, by the way, fantastic (oh yes the grass is so green in VS2005). So yes, if you do use Delphi for more than build shareware MP3 player applications, if you use a VCS and an automated build system, then you know what I'm talking about.

"Arturo, however, I do think you’re descending into whining here. Yes, install-aware is slow, but that’s because it’s MSI based"

Is that so? Then why I don't have those weird problems and ever-lasting installing processes on VS? All VS installers are MSI based, yet they all work fine. InstallAware is slow because it's just a bad installer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Warren:<br />
"If somebody could finally fix the three long-standing QC annoyances Arturo mentions, I’m sure everybody would sigh a breath of relief."</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d sigh a big breath of relief. Everytime I need to build my source tree I need to manually remove the read-only attribute to all the files for the IDE can compile. In Delphi 7 I could build all the source tree even if all files were read-only, as they are if you are working with a VCS like Vault. VS2005 doesn&#8217;t have this problem either, and I work with a lot of C# projects with the same VCS which IDE integration is, by the way, fantastic (oh yes the grass is so green in VS2005). So yes, if you do use Delphi for more than build shareware MP3 player applications, if you use a VCS and an automated build system, then you know what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
<p>"Arturo, however, I do think you’re descending into whining here. Yes, install-aware is slow, but that’s because it’s MSI based"</p>
<p>Is that so? Then why I don&#8217;t have those weird problems and ever-lasting installing processes on VS? All VS installers are MSI based, yet they all work fine. InstallAware is slow because it&#8217;s just a bad installer.</p>
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		<title>By: DelphiUser</title>
		<link>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-756</link>
		<author>DelphiUser</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-756</guid>
		<description>+1 to Anders E.

I use D7's help (also installed on my PC) or even refer back to my D5 paper docs.

I don't know how a noob to Delphi possibly manages to be productive in D2007. This is so in-your-face, it isn't funny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 to Anders E.</p>
<p>I use D7&#8217;s help (also installed on my PC) or even refer back to my D5 paper docs.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how a noob to Delphi possibly manages to be productive in D2007. This is so in-your-face, it isn&#8217;t funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Anders E. Andersen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-755</link>
		<author>Anders E. Andersen</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blogs.codegear.com/chrispattinson/2007/12/17/38894#comment-755</guid>
		<description>I vote for more doc fixes. IDE works most of the time and there are workarounds for when it doesn't.

But not being able to look up simple documentation because of the "this is foo of class bar" error can halt your ability to develop completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I vote for more doc fixes. IDE works most of the time and there are workarounds for when it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>But not being able to look up simple documentation because of the "this is foo of class bar" error can halt your ability to develop completely.</p>
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